All Grain Tastes Like Tea
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All Grain Tastes Like Tea
I used Oktoberfest All Grain Recipe for five gallons of beer. It came with Pilsner malt, Munich malt, and Cara-Munich malt, Tettnang hops and Saaz hops, Irish moss, and Saflager S-23 yeast. The instructions said to mash 60 minutes at 155 f. Wort boil time was 60 min.. The beer has good head and a good blonde color. OG=1.060 and the FG=1.016. This was my first all grain recipe.
After I finished the brew and it fermented fine, cleared up real nice, and I bottled it, I tried a bottle after three weeks to see how things were going and it tastes like unsweetened tea. Not an unpleasant taste but a surprising taste. Is the tea flavor a result of too many tannins being released in the mash or is this a normal flavor for some beers. I haven't drunk every beer in the world so I do not know what some of these beers should taste like. I generally drink stout beer like Guiness.
After I finished the brew and it fermented fine, cleared up real nice, and I bottled it, I tried a bottle after three weeks to see how things were going and it tastes like unsweetened tea. Not an unpleasant taste but a surprising taste. Is the tea flavor a result of too many tannins being released in the mash or is this a normal flavor for some beers. I haven't drunk every beer in the world so I do not know what some of these beers should taste like. I generally drink stout beer like Guiness.
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hereticzero - Pint
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Re: All Grain Tastes Like Tea
I think I solved this problem with John J. Palmer's How To Brew. The taste is due to too many tannins being released during the mashing process. I either got my water too hot and kept the grain in mash for too long, so I need to watch my temperature and time. However, the taste seems to be getting better the longer the beer sits. It is starting to taste more like beer.
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hereticzero - Pint
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Re: All Grain Tastes Like Tea
I'm not sure if tannin extraction is the cause of your problem but another cause of excessive extraction is too fine a grind.
The increased surface area for the grist can increase the extraction of tannins.
Just something else to consider.
- Scott
The increased surface area for the grist can increase the extraction of tannins.
Just something else to consider.
- Scott
Indecision is the key to flexibility
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Stihler - Brewing Master
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Re: All Grain Tastes Like Tea
What temp did it mash at? I dont think time is a big deal but temp is for sure.
What hops,how much, and how long were they in the boil?
A few weeks in the bottle can make a big change for sure.
What hops,how much, and how long were they in the boil?
A few weeks in the bottle can make a big change for sure.
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jeepguy - Brewing Master
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Re: All Grain Tastes Like Tea
The taste has improved remarkably since I first posted this thread. I had guests that drank it up last week and they claimed it tasted great. I tried some and it was not bad at all! I'll try the recipe again and see if I get the same results. I have made several all-grain batches since this post and I've learned more so I do not expect my beer to start off as badly next time.
I believe I was too far off on temp using an electric stove. Since that time I have obtained a good thermometer and have a better handle on mashing temps and steeping times. I am limited in equipment, and physical ability, and my brewing 'ceremony' may not be quite the way someone else brews beer.
I believe I was too far off on temp using an electric stove. Since that time I have obtained a good thermometer and have a better handle on mashing temps and steeping times. I am limited in equipment, and physical ability, and my brewing 'ceremony' may not be quite the way someone else brews beer.
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hereticzero - Pint
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